You WILL unionize whether or not you want too.

Phelan

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703478704574612341241120838.html

Michigan Forces Business Owners Into Public Sector Unions

After hemorrhaging members for decades, labor unions have hit upon a new way to shore up their annual dues revenue.

A year ago in December, Ms. Berry and more than 40,000 other home-based day care providers statewide were suddenly informed they were members of Child Care Providers Together Michigan—a union created in 2006 by the United Auto Workers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The union had won a certification election conducted by mail under the auspices of the Michigan Employment Relations Commission. In that election only 6,000 day-care providers voted. The pro-labor vote turned out.

Many of the state's other 34,000 day-care providers never even realized what was going on. Ms. Berry tells us she was "shocked" to find out she was suddenly in a union. The real dirty work, however, had been done when the state created an "employer" for the union to "organize" against.

Of course, Michigan's independent day-care providers don't work for anybody except the parents who were their customers. Nevertheless, because some of these parents qualified for public subsidies, the Child Care Providers "union" claimed the providers were "public employees."
 

OkieScot

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I heard about this earlier today and it is just one more step in the march to socialism. Washington DC has gone totally off the rails and we are going to pay for it in more than one way. God help us if the people don't wake up soon.
 

inski

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I've worked union for 23 years in S. Cal. Non-union workers make as much or more at times in my trade as I did. I've got no bitches about paying my dues for the benefits I've received. I recently moved to S. Utah and these guys are getting F***ked by the contractors and developers. Both the wages and bennies suck in all the trades!
 

mdawg4x4

Administrator
I worked for one manufacturer that had the steel workers union. I was salaried, so it didn't apply to me, but I watched employees sit on their behind waiting on somebody else to fix a tapped hole because it was not his job description. Held up production for 30min or more. What a waste.

I work for a non-union manufacturer now. We had a union push some 7-8yrs ago. There was a 200+ person union demonstration leading up to the vote. Nobody demonstrating was from the our facility. They were all hired by the UAW to stand out front and wave signs. Needless to say, the vote failed 70% to 30%. Inside the plant, the biggest support for the union was those sitting on their behinds delivering parts via forklift. They were getting the same pay and benefits as those working the line. Some people are never happy.
 

inski

New Member
Out west we compete for our seat and if you don't produce your down the road! Maybe if management was up to par the guy would have gotten off his ass!
mdawg4x4 said:
I worked for one manufacturer that had the steel workers union. I was salaried, so it didn't apply to me, but I watched employees sit on their behind waiting on somebody else to fix a tapped hole because it was not his job description. Held up production for 30min or more. What a waste.

I work for a non-union manufacturer now. We had a union push some 7-8yrs ago. There was a 200+ person union demonstration leading up to the vote. Nobody demonstrating was from the our facility. They were all hired by the UAW to stand out front and wave signs. Needless to say, the vote failed 70% to 30%. Inside the plant, the biggest support for the union was those sitting on their behinds delivering parts via forklift. They were getting the same pay and benefits as those working the line. Some people are never happy.
 

OkieScot

New Member
I have worked in union shops and non union shops. As a teamster I saw a lot of abuse on both sides. We had what we called war games. The company would issue certified letters trying to get us fired. We had mostly good workers, but there were a few that just sat around and complained. It was very difficult for a company to fire someone if the people at the hall liked them.

On the other hand the last job I had before I retired they worked us 13 hours a day for 38 straight days and were threatening to fire us if we would not work longer hours. I am afraid unions are a necessary evil because of the actions of some employers.
 
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